PDA and ODD in Autism
Have you heard of ODD (Oppositional Defiance Disorder) & PDA (Pathological Demand Avoidance)? I am seeing more and more children with a dual diagnosis of ASD and ODD & PDA. It is generally agreed PDA is part of the Autism Spectrum Conditions whereas ODD can occur on its own.
Phil Christie, a child psychologist, said “It is inevitably the case that when conditions are defined by lists of behavioural features there will be interconnections and overlaps. This results in certain aspects of ODD and PDA presenting in a similar ways”
What you might see with either ODD or PDA
- Refuses to do what is asked
- Always answers with “No”
- Talks back
- Deliberately ignores instructions
- Won’t participate in activities
- Makes own rules
- Angers very easily
- Stuck in negative thought patterns
- Has strong likes and dislikes but often can’t tell you why
- Withdrawing into fantasy world
- Giving excuses like ‘I’m tired’ or complaining of physical impairment ‘my hand hurts’
Although there is some debate over whether ODD and PDA are different disorders or the same, I find similar strategies seem to be effective for both.
Sue Larkey
Teacher, Masters Special Education, Author, Speaker
Sue Larkey is a highly qualified educator who has taught students with autism spectrum disorder in both mainstream and special schools. She combines practical experience with extensive research, having completed a Masters in Special Education and the research sections of a Doctorate in Education. With over 1.3 million downloads of her podcast (Sue Larkey Podcast) featuring more than 200 episodes, Sue has authored many books on autism spectrum disorders, including strategies for managing PDA autism and effective ODD tools. She believes that armed with the tools of understanding and confidence, much can be achieved.
Learn More About PDA and ODD:
Diagnostic Support Resources for ODD, PDA, Autism (ASD), and ADHD
– A Comprehensive Assortment of Resources for assisting Diagnosis of ODD, PDA and other Neurodevelopmental and Behavioral Disorders
Other Informative Episodes Assisting in Understanding and Managing of PDA and ODD:
SLP 214: Educator’s Guide to Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA) with Laura Kerbey
Episode 242: Everything you need to know about PDA – Insights & Tips from Educator
Episode 258: Eliza Fricker – Can’t Not Won’t go to school. Insights about PDA from Eliza Fricker